Secessionitis
I was watching Ken Burns' documentary on the Civil War last night on DVD. Several things are worth noting:
- Watching the Union under the leadership of McClellan and the other fools in charge take on the 'Rebels' under the competent leadership of men like JT Jackson, Lee, Stuart, and AP Hill was sort of like watching Elmer Fudd versus Bugs Bunny in the old Looney Toons.
- McClellan was likely a sociopath and perhaps the worst general in military history.
- Any president that puts McClellan in charge of anything and gets 500,000 of his countrymen killed is not a good president.
- McClellan knew what Lee was going to do at the battle of Antietam and still managed to nearly pull defeat out of the jaws of victory. As one Rebel noted, "McClellan brought superior forces, but he also brought himself." No truer and more humorous words were ever spoken.
- Slavery is Bad, m'kaaaaaay?
- Stonewall Jackson was an admirable lunatic. He had a complete contempt of danger and a disregard for suffering. His men didn't like him, but followed him because he was a winner. That, my friends, is the definition of leadership. When one of his couriers was reported dead in battle, he remarked, "Commendable!"
- Lincoln was pretty much a bumbler. Were it not for Grant, there would be no Union as we know it today.
Anyways, I think the reason I'm bringing all of this up is that there appears to be a similar movement afoot today. One that I support if (and only if), the government continues on its current trajectory of suppression of the 1st and 2nd amendments.
PRCalDude
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Funny you should post about scessesion considering I also found this posted today.
Texas can legally secede. It is the only state to join the US via treaty. I don't think the gov't will 'let' any state go. Some form of economic punishment would be used to stop it. I also don't think politicians of any state have the gonads to secede (they may need testosterone replacement therapy :). All the states lost the states rights argument in 1865 and to some degree later during the Civil Rights struggles.
I don't see secession movements going anywhere.....people tend to hit 65 and realize they can't live without Medicare part A and B, and Social Security benefits.
ColtsFan,
I don't see secession movements going anywhere.....people tend to hit 65 and realize they can't live without Medicare part A and B, and Social Security benefits.
If Medicare and Social Security become unaffordable might this not contribute to the conditions necessary for a secessionist movement?
There is just too much to lose in secession. For everyone. It's fun to talk about, but it will never happen.
Heard a pastor talk about current political issues a while back, off the cuff.
His first point is that all earthy governments fail at some point, and that the current U.S. experiment with democracy will also fail. It's just a matter of time. Not because of the system or the people, so much as because of the influence of sin.
His second point was, not letting our troubles with these temporal kingdom problems distract us from the true eternal kingdom concerns.
Good point.
Excellent point.
I need to start applying that to my life.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-08-mex-cartels_N.htm
If USA Today sees a problem, then you know Atlanta is really hurting.
They do, but everyone collecting it right now and for the next 30 years or so is white, and at least half of the people paying into it right now aren't. And the boomers are going to be an extremely costly burden.
Never is an awful long time. I'm in Germany right now and it's been rather interesting to see how many time it's broken apart and come back together again. The top of that article you posted explains the current mood, I believe. The willingness to fight for what we have and the means to do so are entirely on our side. They were on both sides during 1862. I ran into some liberal Americans today patting themselves on the back for voting American and realized I shared absolutely nothing with them, save skin color.
The thing holding the US together was a common culture and a common language. Mexicans don't view themselves as Westerners. I doubt they'd want to secede, but I doubt everyone else wants to become Latino, and looking at California, I see no reason to believe the Mexicans will be able to maintain our current level of civilization, whatever that is at this point. The Muslims coming here are definitely not Westerners.
Mexicans are definitely not blacks - far from it - but I see no reason to believe that they get the twin concepts of individualism and the importance of education. They and the SWPLs will eventually make a sizeable voting block.
Aufwiedersehen, guys. I'll try to post more crap on the 22nd.
There is a difference between seccession and simply falling apart. I'm less worried about seccession. If we fall apart I don't think that seccession issues will be the major problem.