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Fjordman on the Myth of Islamic Civilization

Part one and part two .  As Robert Spencer points out, most of the "advances" and "greatness" of Islamic civilization were either stolen from conquered peoples or made up by Western multiculturalists.  Ultimately, Islam is a self-limiting problem exacerbated by advances in Western medicine that are transfered to Muslim countries.  In other words, the reason the Islamic Umma has grown to such a size over the past century is that Western countries have helped it to grow by extending expected lifespans in Muslim countries and lowering the infant mortality rates.  If there's no longer a West to coddle the Umma, it will be unable to take care of itself, as in the past. 

Some might raise the objection, "What about the Ottoman empire?"  I would respond that the Ottomans granted semi-autonomous rule to their various dhimmi communities.  They therefore had a large enough percentage of non-Muslims in their society to keep it going until Ataturk wiped out or drove out the remaining 1.25 million Greeks and over a million Armenians in the early part of the 20th century.  Turkey's relatively recent successes are likely to be erased by the increasingly powerful Islamists in that country.

Posted on Thursday, October 4, 2007 at 01:14PM by Registered CommenterPRCalDude in | Comments4 Comments

Reader Comments (4)

If we look at Middle Eastern culture in general, there are a number of historicaly siginficant contributions to civilization.

However, if we look at Islamic specific contributions within the greater scheme there really are not that many. The greatest contribution of Islam on world culture is the mindset and justification to conquer and subjugate on a global scale.

So, if we want to bring the globe under a one world government (or one world order), joining the Islamic movement to conquer the globe is a good place to start.

October 4, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLawrence

The pig/dog Jew and infidel medicines must never, inshallah, be allowed pollute the blood of the children of Allah (pboh). Islam is pure and Allah (pboh) will protect from sickness those who fight the jihad against the imperial infidel West. We must fight against those who seek for Islam to submit to western/Jew medicine.

October 5, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterIshmael

Here's one for you, Ishmael:

11 The angel of the LORD also said to her:
"You are now with child
and you will have a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the LORD has heard of your misery.

12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone's hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers."
Haven't you guys already submitted to "Western/jew" medicine? Where are the accomplishments of Muslims in the Medical field? Oh, that's right, there aren't any, and there haven't been any for roughly 800 years.

October 5, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterPRCalDude

Other than death, destruction and subjugation, how exactly is it that Islam offers to benefit us?

What exactly does Islam give the Muslim countries in the Middle East and North Africa? Justified slavery of infidels, justified genocide of Jews and Infidels, women treated as chattel and sex slaves for the most part. 17th century economic depression, starvation, and medical care only for the wealthy. Educational systems that ban girls and train boys to be suicidal bombers.

I could go on.

So, what again does Islam offer me that is in any way attractive? 72 virgins if I blow myself up while trying to commit murder? Oooh... yeah, that's certainly attractive. Not.


October 6, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLawrence

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